Sampler and play mode Next

[cmodica]

I want to play samples in "sync mode" loop and "play mode" Next, but i have two strange problems.

1 - The sampler read only the sample 1-3-5-7 .... and never the 0-2-4-6-8 ...
But it is strange beacause if there is only three samples it reads 1 and after it reads 0 and it never read 2 ????? :/


2 - If i record a new sample on the fly, during the sample playing the list in next mode and sync loop (with the "REC & Play" ON), the reading go to the begenning of the list. And i'd like it playing the list in order, never stop and add my new sample in the end of the list ..... :/

Someone have an idea ?

I hope it is clear ....

[senso]

hello,
for the point 1) you are right, there is a problem in loop mode: the order isn't correct.
I'll check it.

2)and if you try REC & PLAy OFF?

[senso]

Bug fixed;
I'll post an update tomorrow.
If you can't wait, the samplerx1 (1 channel) works fine.

[cmodica]

Wonderfull, thank you Olivier you are the best !!!!

For my second problem, it is the same if "Rec & Play" is ON or OFF ....

Thanks

[cmodica]

OK, on this new version the "Play mode Next and loop" works fine.

But i always have a problem with the Rec & Play and Play mod Next in loop ... ???? !!!!

If the sampler is in
mode : Next
location : file
sync mode : loop

And "Rec & Play" is ON

it is impossible to save the last recorded (exepted for the first one, of course). When record stop it "save rand" to add the new rec at the sampler list, but the following message appears : Nothing recorded, can't save.

If "Rec & Play" is OFF

it works fine but the reading stop when it recording ....

I am going to explain what i'd like to make.
I want to record the input sound. When the record is end i "save rand" this file. And a few second later i want to record an other sound and the sampler reading the first one. I save rand this new sound at the end of recording. Now i want the sampler read the first sound, and the second one in loop mode.

A few second later i want to record an other sound and the sampler reading the first and the second one in loop mode and don't care abount this new recording. When recording is end it "save rand" and now the sampler read the three sound in next mode and loop ......

So, a few minutes after i have 100 sound in the sampler list. I want the sampler read all this sample in order, never stop and add the new sample recorded in the end of the list without stopping the read ....

I hope it is clear ??? :/

[senso]

for the 1) point it's normal that you can't save a file you are recording?

for the point 2) you have to build a patch with a counter that increment the total number of sample after each recording, and resets it (start from the beginning) after REC OFF.

Since it's a particular behaviour I can't make it as an Usine built-in. But construct a patch is probably not so difficult?

[cmodica]

Thank you very much Olivier, but i don't understand what you mean ?

For 1 - I just want to add a new recording file to the sampler list

For 2 - I think like you, i need to build a patch. But if i "build a patch with a counter that increment the total number of sample after each recording, and resets it (start from the beginning) after REC OFF" I don't think it produce what i want ... Because, for example, if sampler reading file 45, if there is 100 files, and if i recording a new file, i want the sampler reading file 45, and 50, 51 .... until the end, so now 101 and after loop to the begining, etc ....

The best, would be a sampler that read a list of sample in next mode and add each new rec at the end of the list without stopping the reading. It read always sample 1, sample 2, ....... until the end. Never stop, never go back or forward, always one after the other. And the list of sample it never the same. At the begening there is 1 sample, 10 mns later there is 8 samples, 30 mns later there is 60 samples ..... But if when it recording the sample 60, the sampler reading the sample 7, never mind, it reading the 7, 8, 9 .... and perhaps the Sample 60 will be read 10mns after it was recording.

If you want i can send by mail, or put somewhere the patch that i begin to build ?

[senso]

and did you try

- mode = single sample
- rec & play = ON
- rec mode = append

Finally, it does something like you want?

[cmodica]

Yes i tried. But i have two problems.
The first one is always the same. Each time i rec, the sampler return on the begining of the sample.

The second is that i'am going to put this system in a place and it will rec short peaces of the landscape, according different parameters that i decided. And i want peaple earing the last 4 hours in the same time they earing the "natural landscape" like every day .... So 4 hours of peaces of sound perahp's will be 1 mn of sound but perhap's it will be 15 mn of sound ....

It is a litle bit more complex but it is the general process that i'm talking about on this forum.

Thank you very much for your help.

[senso]

since the recording and save rnd process affects the file list your pb isn't so easy to solve.
You probably need several samplers and a complex script.

The only way is to create a new param in the sample, something like 'do not affect the list when rec'.
Will be implemented in the next version.

[bsork]

Just an idea..: Wouldn't it be simpler to have a parameter in the sample list to use a directory, possibly with an option to choose sorting between date/time and filename?

That way one sampler could do the recording and create new files, while another plays through the directory listing. Deletion of old files could be accomplished by a simple CMD file called once in a while.

[cmodica]

OK, Olivier

Thank you very much, you are the best ....

[senso]

Just an idea..: Wouldn't it be simpler to have a parameter in the sample list to use a directory, possibly with an option to choose sorting between date/time and filename?

Yes Bsork as usual you're right. And more generally, try to find a way to manage filenames, directories,etc, inside usine with the text flows.

[cmodica]

Yes, i think it is a great solution !!!! Perhap's the better one because it is more open with a lot of possibilities. It would be perfect if we can manage the name of the sample rec. For ex : "SampleModica_" and automatic numbers "SampleModica_000001, SampleModica_000002 ......"

[cmodica]

Is there some new about the way to manage file names in Usine ?
I know you work hard and alone and you make a real good job. The 3.64 is very great.

I need to build something like that :

When there is 50 files in the sampler, delete the old one when record a new one. And so when there is always 50 files in the sampler list from now.

Did you have an idea to help me ?

Thanks

[senso]

sorry, no real news about file names management.
Actually your pb is hard (almost impossible) to solve except to have 50 samplers in your patch...(

You can explore a way to manage the file number in a sub-patch and with a counter which will ignore unwanted files?

[cmodica]

OK thank you Olivier. I will try to find a way to do this job with Usine. I will tell you if i find something.